Episode 151

"The Human Cost of Online Fraud" w/ Ian & Terry @ The Knoble

Published on: 6th December, 2022

Fraudology is presented by Sardine.

Note: This episode is marked explicit due to sensitive topics including child exploitation and human trafficking/modern slavery. This topic is very important, but a little different for Fraudology.

Online fraud-fighters are acutely aware of the financial cost of online/financial fraud to their company or financial institution. Reducing that cost is a main goal of the job. But, how often do we think about collateral crimes that are often either funded by or cause a need to commit fraud or money laundering online?

On today's timely episode, Ian Mitchell returns, along with another integral leader at The Knoble, Terry Schappert to talk about two of the biggest types of fraud-related crimes that have a human cost associated. While these are tough subjects to talk about, there is no doubt that these associated crimes are on the rise. Especially as they relate to online fraud.

Ian & Terry will also share exciting outcomes from the Knoble's recent and rewarding project, "Project: Umbra". It is amazing what can happen when fraud-fighters get together!

For more information about joining the community for

The Knoble: https://www.theknoble.com/

To connect directly with Ian Mitchel: https://www.linkedin.com/in/iantmitchell/

To connect with Terry Schappert: https://www.linkedin.com/in/terry-schappert-03a7539a/

To read more about the connection between Human Trafficking/Human Slavery and online fraud: Pro Publica: https://www.propublica.org/article/human-traffickers-force-victims-into-cyberscamming?utm_source=sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=majorinvestigations&utm_content=feature

Blog article by analysts at Nefture: https://medium.com/nefture/cyber-slavery-a-multi-billion-crypto-scam-industry-the-chinese-mob-1e8cbe6566ff

Fraudology is hosted by Karisse Hendrick, a fraud fighter with decades of experience advising hundreds of the biggest ecommerce companies in the world on fraud, chargebacks, and other forms of abuse impacting a company's bottom line.

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She brings her experience, expertise, and extensive network of experts to this podcast semi weekly, on Tuesdays and Thursdays.

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Fraudology Podcast with Karisse Hendrick
Join Fraud Fighter Karisse Hendrick twice a week for deep dive interviews and weekly fraud news.
If you work in online fraud prevention, chances are you've caught the "bug". The bug that makes you passionate about identifying & preventing cybercriminals from getting away with stealing from your company, or your client's companies. Most people who have made cyber-fraud their career have the perfect balance of analytical and social skills, a strong sense of justice and the curiosity that will drive you to go down every path of information until you "crack the case".

Just like sociology is the study of social behavior, and psychology is the study of human behavior, Fraudology is the science and study of fraud.

On the Fraudology podcast, long-time online fraud expert, Karisse Hendrick will dive into all areas of Fraudology from the perspective of a fraud-fighter. With guests ranging from former cybercriminals to fraud-fighters at Fortune 500 companies to law enforcement and others, you will no doubt be entertained, while learning a lot about fraud & other forms of abuse prevention!

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