Episode 380

The Deepfake Tipping Point with Frank McKenna

Published on: 14th October, 2025

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In this episode of Fraudology In this must-listen episode of the Fraudology Podcast, host Karisse Hendrick welcomes back fraud prevention expert Frank McKenna, co-founder of Point Predictive. Together, they explore the explosive rise of deepfakes and AI-generated voice clones, revealing how these technologies have reached a disturbing level of realism and accessibility.

Frank shares jaw-dropping examples of recent AI-powered fraud, including:

  • Court cases influenced by deepfakes
  • Real estate scams involving cloned identities
  • Voice cloning extortion attempts
  • And even a chilling story involving his own mother being tricked on a scam video call.

They also discuss alarming new tools like OpenAI’s Sora, capable of generating hyper-realistic celebrity deepfakes, and the emergence of “data sniping”, a tactic where breached personal data is combined with AI content to create highly targeted scams. Whether you’re a fraud analyst, cybersecurity professional, or simply concerned about digital safety, this episode will arm you with crucial insights to recognize and defend against the next generation of AI-enabled deception.

Frank McKenna

Fraudology is hosted by Karisse Hendrick, a fraud fighter with decades of experience advising hundreds of the biggest ecommerce companies in the world on fraud, chargebacks, and other forms of abuse impacting a company's bottom line.

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She brings her experience, expertise, and extensive network of experts to this podcast weekly, on Tuesdays.

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Fraudology Podcast with Karisse Hendrick
Join Fraud Fighter Karisse Hendrick twice a week for deep dive interviews and weekly fraud news.
If you work in online fraud prevention, chances are you've caught the "bug". The bug that makes you passionate about identifying & preventing cybercriminals from getting away with stealing from your company, or your client's companies. Most people who have made cyber-fraud their career have the perfect balance of analytical and social skills, a strong sense of justice and the curiosity that will drive you to go down every path of information until you "crack the case".

Just like sociology is the study of social behavior, and psychology is the study of human behavior, Fraudology is the science and study of fraud.

On the Fraudology podcast, long-time online fraud expert, Karisse Hendrick will dive into all areas of Fraudology from the perspective of a fraud-fighter. With guests ranging from former cybercriminals to fraud-fighters at Fortune 500 companies to law enforcement and others, you will no doubt be entertained, while learning a lot about fraud & other forms of abuse prevention!

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